While Anne clearly has no choice BUT to do this, it’s her world or Loki’s, it becomes disturbing thinking of all the innocent gods who have come to life or been brought back, and now have to die or banished into the void again to restore Anne’s world and loved ones. Again, Anne has literally no choice other than to abandon those she loves and there’s no way she could do that, but the fact it’s an epic “your or me” with BOTH SIDES having everything they love on the line, it’s incredibly grim.
It is a bit sad, but the Gods did have their run for much longer than a human can live. It’s other people’s turn now. If someone you love died of old age and you could bring them back at the expense of killing a young person, would you do it? I wouldn’t.
Could I choose which young person? Because reading news (the crime section), I see quite a few candidates …
Of course, Anne can’t choose. It’s all or nothing. She can’t decide which gods to keep and who to put them too. Which is probably good, because it would be terrible responsibility no matter how would she decide.
Like I said, there are innocent new gods in the mix as well, not just older gods brought back from the void. Yes, Anne can’t pick and choose, I’m just saying it’s something that should be appreciated. This is a story where who is the hero and who is the villain is based completely on which side your own, we just happen to have a vested interest in Anne’s world.
Loki has, at various times in the Norse sagas, been the mother of Sleipner, and Fenris. I’m sure that he probably gender bent other times when he thought that it might be funny.
Anne might leave him as a cute little girl with little or no memory about his past, or she might just leave him as himself so that he can deal with the ramifications of his actions.
You’re mixing up stories. Thor Crossdressed to fool Thrym. Utgard Loki challenged Thor to lift a cat, wrestle and old woman and empty a drinking horn in one drink.
It won’t eat her magic, it IS her magic. She’s been learning to control and use chaos magic since she became The Wotch, and now she’s holding an endless supply of it.
I see where you’re coming from. I guess because I was lucky enough to catch an earlier version of the page with more descriptive dialogue, I was primed to read contain as “has X in it”.
I was thinking the same thing, original depiction and all. You are definitely not mistaken on that part and I always do a little bounce for joy when things that depict mythology get that part.
That story always struck a wrong note with me, though. Because all that stuff *got out* it can now affect humans … but the good thing (hope) *staying inside* means it affects humans? Something’s off, there.
I’m no classical scholar but I’ve heard many interpretations of this myth and from the little bit of reading I did it seems like no two people seem to agree. The original word in the greek is elpis and like most language out of that area elpis is vague. While commonly translated as hope it seems to be more closely tied to the idea of expectation both of good or bad depending on context. my personal favorite interpretation is that it was not hope locked inside but pessimism. Other versions of the myth have virtues in the jar and others like prudence and temperance escaped and returned to Olympus leaving us with access only to the hope that things can be improved. I found a lot of the history and interpretation of this myth interesting and if its you thing I’d give it a google.
I believe this should be said – the urn will undo the effects of the STORM, but not the effects done by the people affected by the storm (aka 1 certain statue. again)
Because Anne is making it do so. She’s the Wotch, she knows how to handle chaos magic. There was a previous version of this page where she explained this in more detail in panels four and five, but the dialogue was changed for some reason.
While Anne clearly has no choice BUT to do this, it’s her world or Loki’s, it becomes disturbing thinking of all the innocent gods who have come to life or been brought back, and now have to die or banished into the void again to restore Anne’s world and loved ones. Again, Anne has literally no choice other than to abandon those she loves and there’s no way she could do that, but the fact it’s an epic “your or me” with BOTH SIDES having everything they love on the line, it’s incredibly grim.
It is a bit sad, but the Gods did have their run for much longer than a human can live. It’s other people’s turn now. If someone you love died of old age and you could bring them back at the expense of killing a young person, would you do it? I wouldn’t.
Could I choose which young person? Because reading news (the crime section), I see quite a few candidates …
Of course, Anne can’t choose. It’s all or nothing. She can’t decide which gods to keep and who to put them too. Which is probably good, because it would be terrible responsibility no matter how would she decide.
Like I said, there are innocent new gods in the mix as well, not just older gods brought back from the void. Yes, Anne can’t pick and choose, I’m just saying it’s something that should be appreciated. This is a story where who is the hero and who is the villain is based completely on which side your own, we just happen to have a vested interest in Anne’s world.
How did we manage to go the entire arc without genderbending one of the most famous gender benders in history in a genderbending comic?
Jason -> fraya
and
Robin -> aprodyte
LOKI is famous gender bender who so far remained male.
Drunk party boy- drunk party girl
Loki has, at various times in the Norse sagas, been the mother of Sleipner, and Fenris. I’m sure that he probably gender bent other times when he thought that it might be funny.
Anne might leave him as a cute little girl with little or no memory about his past, or she might just leave him as himself so that he can deal with the ramifications of his actions.
Yes, here’s a story where he fooled Thor and Tyr by appearing as a young widow trying to run a farm alone.
When Baldur was killed and Hermod went to Helheim to reclaim Baldur’s soul, Hel made a bargain. Both links are part of that story as performed by Amon Amarth. I’d look up the lyrics if you aren’t used to growling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHey3HFynwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGAsCpkFl_0
And then there’s the one where he got Thor to wear a dress to fool the Giant, Utgard Loki.
You’re mixing up stories. Thor Crossdressed to fool Thrym. Utgard Loki challenged Thor to lift a cat, wrestle and old woman and empty a drinking horn in one drink.
He’s only mother to Sleipnir. He’s father to Fenris, Hel and Jormangandr through Angrboda. He’s father to Nari/Narfi through Sigyn.
Vali was the other kid he had with Sigyn.
I think you fail to remember that Loki IS Angrboda in Norse myth.
No. Loki disguised himself as the giantess Thokk and refused to weep for Baldr’s death. I haven’t found any source that says Angrboda is also Loki.
According to https://thenorsegods.com/tag/angrboda/ and https://pantheon.org/articles/a/angrboda.html, Loki and Angrboda were the parents of Hel, Fenri, and Jörmungandr. Unless Loki obeyed an instruction to “go f*** himself”, it seems very unlikely that they could be the same person.
That urn contains chaos, huh? Anne’d better hope it doesn’t suck her in, or turn her powers off.
She’s The Wotch. She’s probably the one mortal on the planet who has the least to fear from anything chaos-related. It’s kind of her thing.
Her being chaos-powered is why it should worry her. Because it contains chaos, it could eat her magic along with Loki and the storm.
It won’t eat her magic, it IS her magic. She’s been learning to control and use chaos magic since she became The Wotch, and now she’s holding an endless supply of it.
Wait, are you using contain to mean “is full of”? Because I’ve been assuming it was more the “can hold and quarantine” type of contain.
I see where you’re coming from. I guess because I was lucky enough to catch an earlier version of the page with more descriptive dialogue, I was primed to read contain as “has X in it”.
Okay. I definitely missed any earlier version of this page.
That’s Pandora’s Box, isn’t it? (It is originally depicted as a jar or urn, if I am not mistaken.)
I was thinking the same thing, original depiction and all. You are definitely not mistaken on that part and I always do a little bounce for joy when things that depict mythology get that part.
Pithos. Yes, it’s a kind of jar.
That story always struck a wrong note with me, though. Because all that stuff *got out* it can now affect humans … but the good thing (hope) *staying inside* means it affects humans? Something’s off, there.
I’m no classical scholar but I’ve heard many interpretations of this myth and from the little bit of reading I did it seems like no two people seem to agree. The original word in the greek is elpis and like most language out of that area elpis is vague. While commonly translated as hope it seems to be more closely tied to the idea of expectation both of good or bad depending on context. my personal favorite interpretation is that it was not hope locked inside but pessimism. Other versions of the myth have virtues in the jar and others like prudence and temperance escaped and returned to Olympus leaving us with access only to the hope that things can be improved. I found a lot of the history and interpretation of this myth interesting and if its you thing I’d give it a google.
I believe this should be said – the urn will undo the effects of the STORM, but not the effects done by the people affected by the storm (aka 1 certain statue. again)
the old diversion tactic a classic
So why is it sucking things up? WHy isn’t it just spewing chaos everywhere?
Because Chaos sucks!
Because Anne is making it do so. She’s the Wotch, she knows how to handle chaos magic. There was a previous version of this page where she explained this in more detail in panels four and five, but the dialogue was changed for some reason.
Cuz Anne is an avatar of chaos and gets to tell the urn what to do.
I’ve always sort of considered Loki as the god of Frat Boys and Angry Nerds…
Sounds a little more like Odin, to me, not that the two of them are entirely dissimilar.
Ultimate magic power
itty bitty living space.