Anne. You did kill Loki. Yes, in a less wasteful way. But it’s still ‘death of personality’ and ‘death of identity’. Yes, what you did was a far less wasteful form of execution, but don’t make excuses for yourself.
If he’s no longer in there, she did. If no trace of his former life remains and there’s no way for him to regain the knowledge and memories of who he was, then yes, Loki is dead and Anne killed him.
Personality death, in the event that it cannot be reversed, IS death.
Also, Nobody, you realize that Loki was trying to do the same thing, only to the entire planet right? Everyone, save for a handful of individuals, was going to be overwritten with the personalities of gods and monsters from ancient times. So don’t be too quick to condemn Anne when the guy you’ve been defending pretty much the whole time wanted to do the same thing on a far larger scale.
Regardless, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Even if Anne did kill Loki via Personality Death, then it serves to protect the entirety of the human race. The ends justify the means in this case.
No one’s defending Loki. We’re condemning Anne for doing something inherently wrong. Which she’s done before, and gotten off scot-free before (just like now). It’s all well and good to spout trite BS like “the ends justify the means” and “the needs of the many, etc.”, but when it’s used to defend a character who is as ludicrously dangerous as Anne doing THE SAME THING SHE’S TRYING TO STOP, it just rings hollow. Them’s the breaks.
Then stop reading the comic, it is crowded, nay BASED ON personalities getting overwritten back and forth in several cases, and do you know what?
IT WILL MOST PROBABLY HAPPEN AGAIN !
The persona of “Loki” was probably intruding on that guys original personality as it was, same with Hermes.
And if my comments bother you, stop reading them. They are based on an opinion that you clearly don’t want to hear, so bug off. I’ve already stated my dropping of this comic from my rotation AFTER THIS STORY ENDS, and I’m tired of hearing your weeby whining about how some people aren’t happy with your waifu right now.
And for the record, my problem is not with transformation. It’s with the fact that Anne is being presented as correct not because this needed to be done, but because she’s the star of the show and therefore is the story’s equivalent of Jesus Christ in terms of infallibility. I also have a problem with identity death as a concept, especially when a character uses it so carelessly.
At least The Good Witch didn’t pretend their magical sociopath wasn’t evil. Unless that happened after it got too mind-rapey for me, anyway.
Uh, no. What Loki tried to do was unjustifiable aggression, warping the entire world to suit his desires. What Anne did was self-defense and defense of others. It’s the difference between murdering someone to take their stuff and killing the one who tries to murder you.
I don’t agree that she killed Loki, but if she did then it was not murder: she was defending the world against mass murder.
Except that I’m basing my opinion off of Anne’s petty priors, which she clearly hasn’t learned from. To use your metaphor, killing a terrorist before they harm thousands doesn’t justify those guys you killed earlier for wearing orange blazers with plaid pants.
And rather than it being treated as a tragic and sad “you or me”, with both sides fighting for everything dear to them even if it costs the enemy everything THEY love instead, we instead get “side with Anne because she’s the hero.” If this was a fluff comic where the transformation was transformation sake and we were SUPPOSED to have a ‘slightly’ sociopathic protagonist who treated the other characters in the comic as playthings for their (and thus us the readers’) amusement, that would be one thing. But Anne is supposed to be the hero, and thus we are expected to side with her.
Loki wanted to make victims of the whole world so he and his pals could play. Anne wanted to stop that from happening so the people of the world could get on with their lives.
I see a difference there. Yes, there was violence. Yes there was destruction. But Anne wasn’t the one who started this. She wasn’t the one who posed the threat. She was the one trying to protect innocents. That doesn’t make her perfect. It doesn’t mean she’s never done anything wrong.
But which world would you rather live in? Loki’s or Anne’s?
I agree, I’ve always hated identity death as a solution to dealing with an antagonist. If the original persons thoughts and personality no longer exist, it’s no different than if they had been murdered outright except for a veneer of moral superiority to assuage the heroes conscience over having to kill or physically harm the antagonist.
I hold Anne to the same standard to which she held Loki. She appointed herself judge, jury, and executioner to him, and she should pay some kind of price.
And for the record, your “Loki was going to do moar” standard is laughable. This is not the first time Anne’s capped someone like this, and you know it. But you are either too simpleminded to remember, or are living in willful ignorance. Either way, don’t assume you know a damn thing about how I think, or what standards I hold. You’ll just keep embarrassing yourself.
And imprisoning someone in a non-living vessel is not a good enough punishment for someone that was about to remove the the minds of every being on earth, and replace them with the personalities of mythological equivalents.
NOT EVEN if it happens to be the best solution at the time.
Um, wrong. Loki wanted to be the new king of the gods. Can’t do that with no mortals to heap worship upon you. While he assuredly would have brought back more gods than we saw here, I suspect that there would still have been plenty of humans left.
Yeah, she definitely did kill him, not in body, but in mind and probably soul. And I’d argue that is infinitely worse. The body is merely a vessel, the mind is the thing worth treasuring. It’s like a computer. The computer is merely a device that a person interacts with/through. It is the body. You could argue the hard drive is the memories and mind, perhaps. The user is the soul/essence, and at the very least, Anne wiped the hard drive… at worst, she murdered the guy at the desk and gave the computer to someone else.
Now I can’t speak for the afterlife rules of the wotch universe, but in general, I’d argue it is far more merciful to kill someone’s body so that their soul can move on to the next life (and be judged there accordingly), rather than be twisted, destroyed or entrapped.
But again, guess it all depends on the rules of the universe.
Huh. The comments here have certainly gone dark. And, forgive me, somewhat limited. I know my conclusion is somewhat different, and trusts more in the writer.
While it’s possible that Loki may be “dead”, knowing the comic over its lifetime, it seems far more likely that Loki is not dead but imprisoned in his own mind. In the same way a criminal is imprisoned to pay for their crimes, Loki is imprisoned. In MCU, they did it physically, in the Wotch, it may be psychically. Perhaps Anne is giving Loki a taste of being on this side of mortality. Perhaps this is a “training period”, where at the proper time, Loki will be given these memories and limited freedom (parole, if you will), to demonstrate he’s not quite to power-mad. For now, payment for crimes against (literally) humanity, and also for the safe-guarding of humanity from a demonstrably real threat is needed.
I can come up with another two or three possible solutions that fit with this comic. But this is not my comic, and I apologize to the writers for intruding my ideas on them in this open forum.
Both Miranda and Annie have dealt with their enemies in ways where it’s either effectively death or a fate worse than death now.
I for one don’t view this as the comic saying it’s a good thing and very much forward to the consequences from their actions being used for character development.
I don’t mind how Anne dealt with Loki in this story. The story was not bad, I just feel like it missed an opportunity. There was an opportunity for Anne to grow here. Loki is very similar to Anne, both create chaos by virtue of their existence and both change people’s lives and identities on a whim. This was an opportunity for Anne to grow as a character and realize her responsibilities and how she shouldn’t abuse her powers or use them carelessly. But she doesn’t, really. She’s right by virtue of being the protagonist. I know the Wotch is just a wacky romp and a thinly veiled excuse for light transformation fetishism, but this story was well put together enough and interesting enough for me to get my hopes up. It didn’t fail. It just didn’t follow through on some potentially interesting ideas. The final confrontation is just a bad guy fight and the moral conflict between Anne and Loki falls flat. I don’t mind that Loki was made mortal and stripped of his identity. He tried to strip the identity of everyone and make them gods, so there’s some poetic justice there, but the narrative excuses Anne’s behavior too much.
Overall, I liked this arc. I like the new art style. I liked a lot of the quippy back and forth. I like that the story attempted to make characters more complex. I just wish it had followed all the way through for a more satisfying conclusion.
But she won’t learn. She never does, and that’s the problem. And now, who can reasonably expect her to listen now that she can just pull the power out of people?
Let’s face it, she’s the very god she said the world no longer needs. And she’s allowed this story to walk into a minefield of bad storywriting tropes to boot.
It was a decent story that dragged on too long; I wish it had been about 2/3 the length it was.
As for the results to Hermes and Loki… have you read the non-sanitized stories about them? Hermes is a serial rapist; Loki is a murderer and traitor. Throughout most of history, they would have been executed for their crimes, if anyone had the power to bring them to justice, and in our day, they probably would have gotten life without parole, assuming you could find a prison capable of containing them. Mind wiping *is* a gentle punishment for them.
I’m just thinking of a time when Loki gets his memories back and has been a human for enough time to realize what a jerk he was. So, he will either have learned a valuable lesson or the human memories will be over run by his jerk memories to the point that we would have been better off if he was killed or permanently mind wiped.
Identity death? History death, certainly. But “Louis” still has a future, and capacity to relearn and re-experience. We don’t know that he has lost any intelligence or creative ability. Perhaps a rebirth rather than a death.
His powers? who needs ’em? He couldn’t possibly have been allowed to retain those anyway, and if they meant so much to him, the memory loss may be particularly kind.
Would the erasure of traumatic memories mean a diminution in personality and potential, or would the person benefit from the loss of trauma? I think the latter. And Loki has lost everything (largely his own fault).
It’s still a drastic solution, and if you object to it, I doubt I could shoot you right down.
sure a lot of morel grande standing in the coments. It is sad to see so many people that dont understand that world is not fair and there are no perfect solutions. There are many graves filled with people that payed for the good of others. What Annie did was the best solution for the people in her time. All that is will pass in time 99% of all creature types are gone and one day humans will be also. It is the nature of the ever changing universe we live in.
It’s disturbing. All those gods, many of them created in modern times, made prisoners in a I must scream scenario… sure, it was them or Anne’s friends… but it’s down right DISTURBING how… CHEERFUL she is about all this.
Just finished going through the archives. After the second art shift, the years started really speeding by. What is the update rate at now, two pages per month? I’ll try to keep up, but it will be difficult.
For all of you saying Anne’s innocent here, take a good look at the first two panels again. She’s hoping someone believes that, because it lets her pretend to be the hero while keeping her new “Nobody else plays with my toys” signpost that just woke up.
The worst part is, if Anne was just a “zaps people for fun” character, we wouldn’t mind, we’d be fine with this as just the way the game goes between players. But if the narrative insists she’s supposed to be the hero, that’s where the trouble starts.
Amazing how some people will incessantly try to shove (or perhaps spam) their opinions on a comic at other readers. It’s almost as if they want to make sure that everyone sees it that way, even though that’s kind of defeating the purpose of a comic. Especially a comic that’s being produced for free.
I’m okay with the characters in a comic being flawed, or even badly flawed, because it’s fiction. And since it’s a story about magic and magical beings, it’s not fiction that can ever come to be.
Y’all are pretty sure of yourselves in your judgments of whether what Anne did was good, evil, or mixed. But here’s what you’re missing in your leaps to judgment:
This chapter isn’t over.
We don’t know exactly what has happened to Loki here. We don’t know whether Anne will face any consequences for her actions. (It took 11 chapters for her to get to the consequences of Anger’s actions in “SchizophrANNEia”.) We don’t even know what Miranda is going to do in the very next page.
The only people who *know*, as of today, how this will turn out, are the ones creating the comic.
It’s fun to speculate, but it’s all theory and hypothetical until the pages are published. And the pages that will support or contradict your theories and judgments have not yet been published. So why are we at each other’s throats about it?
My personal theory is that this incident should teach Anne to realize how precarious her position as the embodiment of Chaos magic really is, how a nudge in the wrong direction could make her just like Loki. She *has* been cavalier and careless in her use of magic. Now she’s directly seen what a person not bound by mortal morality can do with so much Chaos power. This *should* pay off in some self-reflection and contrition.
But that may not be the journey these creators have in mind for her. We won’t know until more pages are published. And getting to that introspection may take a while.
So let’s all stop taking all of this so personally, shall we?
I hope you’re right. Even still, I would have liked there to be some reflection before the climactic fight was over. If Anne has a learning moment, that’s better, but I still think the story missed out on framing the conflict around Anne and Loki being similar and Anne coming to grips with the fact that she’s done Loki-ish things on a smaller scale. Her declaring herself to be a hero and gods to be bad REALLY rings hollow when Anne hasn’t had that reflective moment. To clarify, I don’t hate this arc. I don’t hate this story. I thought it was fun and interesting, it just didn’t stick the landing.
Feline, the reason I’m at anyone else’s throat is because Catelf has gone after any opinion that is not in lockstep with theirs while expecting a load of snark and condescension to convince those of us who think Anne’s flirting with a serious Moral Event Horizon that we’re wrong. Maybe I’ve been a little harsh, but they’ve been doing this for a few pages now, despite not demanding that any of the “Next page when” posters or people complaining about an art style shift shut up or leave.
As for the story itself, it feels . . . rushed in the back half. The paranoia and sense of unease set up by seeing Anne’s friends turning into her enemies disappeared as soon as we got to the club, and having Anne Hoover up the gods before lecturing a villain on how he’s wrong to do what she does feels hypocritical and kind of lazy. Not to mention that now we need an explanation every time she doesn’t just Elderspell a new bad guy right off the bat . . .
Maybe I’m just getting cynical, but the delays just seem to have rushed this arc, and it makes the story feel like it’s fallen flat.
Well I really do not have an opinion on
Annes or Lokis actions as they are both just co mic book, characters, in an imaginary setting I enjoy reading about. Now for a fact based item, “Imagine: You are a senior police officer called to a home because a woman called and said her neighbor, a violent man (who you checked as you responded and he has a long record of being a nasty violent wife beating person) is beating his wife to death. You get there an tell your little high school uniformed wanna be coppette to remain in the car and charge the smashed in front door. When you get to it you hear a woman shrieking in agony and kick the door the rest of the way open, as it was already smashed open as you saw upon arrival. You enter, the husband (you recognize him as you have arrested him a couple of times over the years) is standing over his beaten and bleeding wife, who is crumpled on the floor. He holds a big butcher knife in his hand and is bringing it down toward her screaming, “Die bitch!” (it was actually a worse word but not printable here). You scream, “Police” as you draw your 357 magnum and point it at him, he hesitates an looks at you then screams incoherently and tries to stab his wife. You shoot and kill him. You are suspended from active duty until the shooting is investigated and declared a good shoot. But you keep seeing and hearing his voice in your dreams for the rest of your life. Were you right or were you wrong? In the end does it even matter? I don’t know.
All that being said, the odds are in your favor that if you do handling a coupon on your start signify, your partaker won’t mind. And, there’s a waken likelihood tenco.guetran.se/prachtig-huis/gamers-handleiding-voor-bijna-alles.php that he or she force on the unvarying be impressed. After all, who would you amiable of skilled hat modern: someone with budgetary run-of-the-mill standing something in joined’s bones or someone who effectiveness bunk away more than they can afford?
It’s water in the same way that Long Island Iced Tea is tea.
Anne. You did kill Loki. Yes, in a less wasteful way. But it’s still ‘death of personality’ and ‘death of identity’. Yes, what you did was a far less wasteful form of execution, but don’t make excuses for yourself.
Metaphorical “death” is not the same as literal death. Amnesia is a terrible thing, but it is not death. Anne did not kill Loki.
If he’s no longer in there, she did. If no trace of his former life remains and there’s no way for him to regain the knowledge and memories of who he was, then yes, Loki is dead and Anne killed him.
Personality death, in the event that it cannot be reversed, IS death.
Also, Nobody, you realize that Loki was trying to do the same thing, only to the entire planet right? Everyone, save for a handful of individuals, was going to be overwritten with the personalities of gods and monsters from ancient times. So don’t be too quick to condemn Anne when the guy you’ve been defending pretty much the whole time wanted to do the same thing on a far larger scale.
Regardless, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Even if Anne did kill Loki via Personality Death, then it serves to protect the entirety of the human race. The ends justify the means in this case.
No one’s defending Loki. We’re condemning Anne for doing something inherently wrong. Which she’s done before, and gotten off scot-free before (just like now). It’s all well and good to spout trite BS like “the ends justify the means” and “the needs of the many, etc.”, but when it’s used to defend a character who is as ludicrously dangerous as Anne doing THE SAME THING SHE’S TRYING TO STOP, it just rings hollow. Them’s the breaks.
Then stop reading the comic, it is crowded, nay BASED ON personalities getting overwritten back and forth in several cases, and do you know what?
IT WILL MOST PROBABLY HAPPEN AGAIN !
The persona of “Loki” was probably intruding on that guys original personality as it was, same with Hermes.
And if my comments bother you, stop reading them. They are based on an opinion that you clearly don’t want to hear, so bug off. I’ve already stated my dropping of this comic from my rotation AFTER THIS STORY ENDS, and I’m tired of hearing your weeby whining about how some people aren’t happy with your waifu right now.
And for the record, my problem is not with transformation. It’s with the fact that Anne is being presented as correct not because this needed to be done, but because she’s the star of the show and therefore is the story’s equivalent of Jesus Christ in terms of infallibility. I also have a problem with identity death as a concept, especially when a character uses it so carelessly.
At least The Good Witch didn’t pretend their magical sociopath wasn’t evil. Unless that happened after it got too mind-rapey for me, anyway.
Uh, no. What Loki tried to do was unjustifiable aggression, warping the entire world to suit his desires. What Anne did was self-defense and defense of others. It’s the difference between murdering someone to take their stuff and killing the one who tries to murder you.
I don’t agree that she killed Loki, but if she did then it was not murder: she was defending the world against mass murder.
Except that I’m basing my opinion off of Anne’s petty priors, which she clearly hasn’t learned from. To use your metaphor, killing a terrorist before they harm thousands doesn’t justify those guys you killed earlier for wearing orange blazers with plaid pants.
And rather than it being treated as a tragic and sad “you or me”, with both sides fighting for everything dear to them even if it costs the enemy everything THEY love instead, we instead get “side with Anne because she’s the hero.” If this was a fluff comic where the transformation was transformation sake and we were SUPPOSED to have a ‘slightly’ sociopathic protagonist who treated the other characters in the comic as playthings for their (and thus us the readers’) amusement, that would be one thing. But Anne is supposed to be the hero, and thus we are expected to side with her.
Have you considered that Loki might not have been inhabiting his own body for a long time as it is?
If that was the case, Anne wouldn’t have given him her Hannibal Lecture after sealing the urn. He’d’ve been sucked in with the other gods.
Loki wanted to make victims of the whole world so he and his pals could play. Anne wanted to stop that from happening so the people of the world could get on with their lives.
I see a difference there. Yes, there was violence. Yes there was destruction. But Anne wasn’t the one who started this. She wasn’t the one who posed the threat. She was the one trying to protect innocents. That doesn’t make her perfect. It doesn’t mean she’s never done anything wrong.
But which world would you rather live in? Loki’s or Anne’s?
Um- my thoughts below, after several others have commented. Very much a visitor to your fine site, but will certainly call again.
I agree, I’ve always hated identity death as a solution to dealing with an antagonist. If the original persons thoughts and personality no longer exist, it’s no different than if they had been murdered outright except for a veneer of moral superiority to assuage the heroes conscience over having to kill or physically harm the antagonist.
On the other hand, he totally deserved it.
On the other other hand, Anne’s deserved that fate for a while now.
So, there is no difference between doing something to THE ENTIRE WORLD and merely doing it to a few, to you?
You hold Anne to a standard far higher than it seems you did Loki.
I hold Anne to the same standard to which she held Loki. She appointed herself judge, jury, and executioner to him, and she should pay some kind of price.
And for the record, your “Loki was going to do moar” standard is laughable. This is not the first time Anne’s capped someone like this, and you know it. But you are either too simpleminded to remember, or are living in willful ignorance. Either way, don’t assume you know a damn thing about how I think, or what standards I hold. You’ll just keep embarrassing yourself.
Just remember, kids, nothing is wrong if you’re the hero!
#SARCASM
And imprisoning someone in a non-living vessel is not a good enough punishment for someone that was about to remove the the minds of every being on earth, and replace them with the personalities of mythological equivalents.
NOT EVEN if it happens to be the best solution at the time.
Um, wrong. Loki wanted to be the new king of the gods. Can’t do that with no mortals to heap worship upon you. While he assuredly would have brought back more gods than we saw here, I suspect that there would still have been plenty of humans left.
we are all half centaur. so why then is Miranda not a centaur. or did the chaos magic in retreating go a little too far
Yeah, she definitely did kill him, not in body, but in mind and probably soul. And I’d argue that is infinitely worse. The body is merely a vessel, the mind is the thing worth treasuring. It’s like a computer. The computer is merely a device that a person interacts with/through. It is the body. You could argue the hard drive is the memories and mind, perhaps. The user is the soul/essence, and at the very least, Anne wiped the hard drive… at worst, she murdered the guy at the desk and gave the computer to someone else.
Now I can’t speak for the afterlife rules of the wotch universe, but in general, I’d argue it is far more merciful to kill someone’s body so that their soul can move on to the next life (and be judged there accordingly), rather than be twisted, destroyed or entrapped.
But again, guess it all depends on the rules of the universe.
As i see it, he is captured in the urn.
Okay, I will admit that’s pretty bad. I’m still not giving up on this comic though.
How is it bad?
(Think for yourself.)
And in case anyone’s forgotten, rewriting someone’s brain is exactly the kind of thing Miranda would do.
Indeed.
No one claimed she was a role model for heroes.
Except she’s teaching Anne how to Wotch. And she clearly hasn’t taught her to learn from your past screw-ups.
Huh. The comments here have certainly gone dark. And, forgive me, somewhat limited. I know my conclusion is somewhat different, and trusts more in the writer.
While it’s possible that Loki may be “dead”, knowing the comic over its lifetime, it seems far more likely that Loki is not dead but imprisoned in his own mind. In the same way a criminal is imprisoned to pay for their crimes, Loki is imprisoned. In MCU, they did it physically, in the Wotch, it may be psychically. Perhaps Anne is giving Loki a taste of being on this side of mortality. Perhaps this is a “training period”, where at the proper time, Loki will be given these memories and limited freedom (parole, if you will), to demonstrate he’s not quite to power-mad. For now, payment for crimes against (literally) humanity, and also for the safe-guarding of humanity from a demonstrably real threat is needed.
I can come up with another two or three possible solutions that fit with this comic. But this is not my comic, and I apologize to the writers for intruding my ideas on them in this open forum.
As i see it, he is trapped in the urn or whatever.
Both Miranda and Annie have dealt with their enemies in ways where it’s either effectively death or a fate worse than death now.
I for one don’t view this as the comic saying it’s a good thing and very much forward to the consequences from their actions being used for character development.
I don’t mind how Anne dealt with Loki in this story. The story was not bad, I just feel like it missed an opportunity. There was an opportunity for Anne to grow here. Loki is very similar to Anne, both create chaos by virtue of their existence and both change people’s lives and identities on a whim. This was an opportunity for Anne to grow as a character and realize her responsibilities and how she shouldn’t abuse her powers or use them carelessly. But she doesn’t, really. She’s right by virtue of being the protagonist. I know the Wotch is just a wacky romp and a thinly veiled excuse for light transformation fetishism, but this story was well put together enough and interesting enough for me to get my hopes up. It didn’t fail. It just didn’t follow through on some potentially interesting ideas. The final confrontation is just a bad guy fight and the moral conflict between Anne and Loki falls flat. I don’t mind that Loki was made mortal and stripped of his identity. He tried to strip the identity of everyone and make them gods, so there’s some poetic justice there, but the narrative excuses Anne’s behavior too much.
Overall, I liked this arc. I like the new art style. I liked a lot of the quippy back and forth. I like that the story attempted to make characters more complex. I just wish it had followed all the way through for a more satisfying conclusion.
I agree with you – Anne could have grown as a hero and as a better person.
However, there is still time to learn from this.
But she won’t learn. She never does, and that’s the problem. And now, who can reasonably expect her to listen now that she can just pull the power out of people?
Let’s face it, she’s the very god she said the world no longer needs. And she’s allowed this story to walk into a minefield of bad storywriting tropes to boot.
Pretty sure she’s more powerful than gods, according to this universe’s logic.
It was a decent story that dragged on too long; I wish it had been about 2/3 the length it was.
As for the results to Hermes and Loki… have you read the non-sanitized stories about them? Hermes is a serial rapist; Loki is a murderer and traitor. Throughout most of history, they would have been executed for their crimes, if anyone had the power to bring them to justice, and in our day, they probably would have gotten life without parole, assuming you could find a prison capable of containing them. Mind wiping *is* a gentle punishment for them.
I’m just thinking of a time when Loki gets his memories back and has been a human for enough time to realize what a jerk he was. So, he will either have learned a valuable lesson or the human memories will be over run by his jerk memories to the point that we would have been better off if he was killed or permanently mind wiped.
Identity death? History death, certainly. But “Louis” still has a future, and capacity to relearn and re-experience. We don’t know that he has lost any intelligence or creative ability. Perhaps a rebirth rather than a death.
His powers? who needs ’em? He couldn’t possibly have been allowed to retain those anyway, and if they meant so much to him, the memory loss may be particularly kind.
Would the erasure of traumatic memories mean a diminution in personality and potential, or would the person benefit from the loss of trauma? I think the latter. And Loki has lost everything (largely his own fault).
It’s still a drastic solution, and if you object to it, I doubt I could shoot you right down.
“His powers? who needs ’em?”
To aliens who have never needed vision before, our eyeballs seems like gratuitous superpowers we could do without just fine.
I am justly if gently rebuked, Nobody.
Yet I think that in this case, the powers were abused, and Loki has forfeited them.
sure a lot of morel grande standing in the coments. It is sad to see so many people that dont understand that world is not fair and there are no perfect solutions. There are many graves filled with people that payed for the good of others. What Annie did was the best solution for the people in her time. All that is will pass in time 99% of all creature types are gone and one day humans will be also. It is the nature of the ever changing universe we live in.
It’s disturbing. All those gods, many of them created in modern times, made prisoners in a I must scream scenario… sure, it was them or Anne’s friends… but it’s down right DISTURBING how… CHEERFUL she is about all this.
Just finished going through the archives. After the second art shift, the years started really speeding by. What is the update rate at now, two pages per month? I’ll try to keep up, but it will be difficult.
For all of you saying Anne’s innocent here, take a good look at the first two panels again. She’s hoping someone believes that, because it lets her pretend to be the hero while keeping her new “Nobody else plays with my toys” signpost that just woke up.
The worst part is, if Anne was just a “zaps people for fun” character, we wouldn’t mind, we’d be fine with this as just the way the game goes between players. But if the narrative insists she’s supposed to be the hero, that’s where the trouble starts.
Amazing how some people will incessantly try to shove (or perhaps spam) their opinions on a comic at other readers. It’s almost as if they want to make sure that everyone sees it that way, even though that’s kind of defeating the purpose of a comic. Especially a comic that’s being produced for free.
I’m okay with the characters in a comic being flawed, or even badly flawed, because it’s fiction. And since it’s a story about magic and magical beings, it’s not fiction that can ever come to be.
Y’all are pretty sure of yourselves in your judgments of whether what Anne did was good, evil, or mixed. But here’s what you’re missing in your leaps to judgment:
This chapter isn’t over.
We don’t know exactly what has happened to Loki here. We don’t know whether Anne will face any consequences for her actions. (It took 11 chapters for her to get to the consequences of Anger’s actions in “SchizophrANNEia”.) We don’t even know what Miranda is going to do in the very next page.
The only people who *know*, as of today, how this will turn out, are the ones creating the comic.
It’s fun to speculate, but it’s all theory and hypothetical until the pages are published. And the pages that will support or contradict your theories and judgments have not yet been published. So why are we at each other’s throats about it?
My personal theory is that this incident should teach Anne to realize how precarious her position as the embodiment of Chaos magic really is, how a nudge in the wrong direction could make her just like Loki. She *has* been cavalier and careless in her use of magic. Now she’s directly seen what a person not bound by mortal morality can do with so much Chaos power. This *should* pay off in some self-reflection and contrition.
But that may not be the journey these creators have in mind for her. We won’t know until more pages are published. And getting to that introspection may take a while.
So let’s all stop taking all of this so personally, shall we?
I hope you’re right. Even still, I would have liked there to be some reflection before the climactic fight was over. If Anne has a learning moment, that’s better, but I still think the story missed out on framing the conflict around Anne and Loki being similar and Anne coming to grips with the fact that she’s done Loki-ish things on a smaller scale. Her declaring herself to be a hero and gods to be bad REALLY rings hollow when Anne hasn’t had that reflective moment. To clarify, I don’t hate this arc. I don’t hate this story. I thought it was fun and interesting, it just didn’t stick the landing.
Feline, the reason I’m at anyone else’s throat is because Catelf has gone after any opinion that is not in lockstep with theirs while expecting a load of snark and condescension to convince those of us who think Anne’s flirting with a serious Moral Event Horizon that we’re wrong. Maybe I’ve been a little harsh, but they’ve been doing this for a few pages now, despite not demanding that any of the “Next page when” posters or people complaining about an art style shift shut up or leave.
As for the story itself, it feels . . . rushed in the back half. The paranoia and sense of unease set up by seeing Anne’s friends turning into her enemies disappeared as soon as we got to the club, and having Anne Hoover up the gods before lecturing a villain on how he’s wrong to do what she does feels hypocritical and kind of lazy. Not to mention that now we need an explanation every time she doesn’t just Elderspell a new bad guy right off the bat . . .
Maybe I’m just getting cynical, but the delays just seem to have rushed this arc, and it makes the story feel like it’s fallen flat.
Well I really do not have an opinion on
Annes or Lokis actions as they are both just co mic book, characters, in an imaginary setting I enjoy reading about. Now for a fact based item, “Imagine: You are a senior police officer called to a home because a woman called and said her neighbor, a violent man (who you checked as you responded and he has a long record of being a nasty violent wife beating person) is beating his wife to death. You get there an tell your little high school uniformed wanna be coppette to remain in the car and charge the smashed in front door. When you get to it you hear a woman shrieking in agony and kick the door the rest of the way open, as it was already smashed open as you saw upon arrival. You enter, the husband (you recognize him as you have arrested him a couple of times over the years) is standing over his beaten and bleeding wife, who is crumpled on the floor. He holds a big butcher knife in his hand and is bringing it down toward her screaming, “Die bitch!” (it was actually a worse word but not printable here). You scream, “Police” as you draw your 357 magnum and point it at him, he hesitates an looks at you then screams incoherently and tries to stab his wife. You shoot and kill him. You are suspended from active duty until the shooting is investigated and declared a good shoot. But you keep seeing and hearing his voice in your dreams for the rest of your life. Were you right or were you wrong? In the end does it even matter? I don’t know.
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