Buddhism do have a god, in fact, it has lots, as it sprung off Hinduism.
However, it tend to care little to nothing about those gods.
It also has it’s Jesus-like figure in Buddha, and by that i mean “The One True Way”-guy that you reach the “Most Desireable Endgoal” through, essentially.
One of the things that intrigues me about Buddhism is that it attempts to define Good and Evil as objective things, rather than saying that something is Good or Evil “because God(s) say so”.
It’s hard to tell with the comic capitalization, but I’m pretty sure through context that she meant “gods” with a little g. Which would exclude the omnipotent monotheistic God however you know Him, Her, They, or It.
Didn’t the omnipotent monotheistic God decided themselves that the world doesn’t need it? I mean, he didn’t do anything significant for like two thousand years …
YHVH is still a god. The capital “G” comes solely from using “God” as a title because in the Abrahamic religions, speaking YHVH’s name is blasphemous except for the high clergy, and there’s been sufficient creep that most of the adherents to said religions have forgotten that even the Tetragrammaton (YHVH) and its various be-voweled derivatives (Yaveh, Yaweh, Jehovah, etc) aren’t the “name of god.”
Well, let’s be fair, the Greek/Roman gods were just a bunch of powerful assholes who used mortals as their playthings. Whereas the Abrahamic God, love him or hate him, established rules during the course of the bible, the Greek/Roman gods just did what they wanted willy-nilly.
So really, when she says the world doesn’t need “gods”, as in super powerful beings actively who screw over mortals over minor offenses because they have the power to do so, I think she’s very much right. I tend to view these “gods” like Loki or Hermes as being more like powerful extra-dimensional beings, like aliens or something, rather than a true God.
The thing most people miss in that is that Gods are the distillation of hero myths told by chinese telephone game for 100 generations.
That and early attempts at science marred by humanities tendency to humanize everything. Back then it was attributing malice and plotting to wolves and owls, rushing rivers and volcanos, now days it’s PETA trying to tell us animals have souls and we shouldn’t eat them.
No, Anne, that’s not at all the nicest option. You’re stripping Loki of his powers for, essentially, doing his job of challenging the status quo. Ya know, god of mischief, chaos and trickery?
At least when this was done in Magic: the Gathering’s Ravnica storyline, there were MASSIVE consequences that lasted for over a decade. Here? It’ll likely just be ignored by the Mary Sue Crew and never spoken of again.
Or, considering how long this story’s gone so far, we’ll be in the wreckage of Loki’s club for that long anyway . . .
If this story has taken a long time, it’s only because the creators are currently having difficulties financially. If you don’t like it, then go donate to their Patreon.
And if it were possible to down click both of you, I would. I didn’t mind the delays while this story was still good (PS, plenty of commentors have complained about the delays during this story, but I’m the one you tell to pay into this. Hmmmnm . . . ), but as soon as we established that Anne was both Mary Sue and MacGuffin rolled into one, it became a crapfest. There’ll be no consequences for her, like always happens, and we’re just expected to be totally cool with the fact that Anne’s gleefully imprisoned most of the gods forever while handing down a death sentence to Loki without a second thought. But you’re right, I should pay into this steadily declining comic so they can churn it out more quickly.
Complaining on a free comic instead of merely leaving it be … yes, very ….
No, i have no words for it, but whatever it is, it is not constructive criticism.
You are, at best, disappointed with the sporadic updates, but as you don’t like the comic any longer anyway, then why should you care?
It used to be great, and had a good run.
If you no longer like it, then leave it.
This is no malice from my side, just pointing things out, as you did.
Also, MtG uses events to fuel and start up following cycles, i like that, but The Wotch’s world …. is not Ravnica.
And as for removing gods from their powers … remember what the Greek Pantheon did to their allegedly cruel parents?
Surely, that would have had a massive impact in their world.
Same with TYING LOKI TO A ROCK AND HAVE VENOM DRIPPING ON HIS FORHEAD.
No, forcing Loki to live as human will not have a big impact … or perhaps it will, neither of us know what is or may be planned.
@Catelf – like I said, I had no problem with the sporadic updates. However, once we got to Anne’s confrontation with Loki, it quickly became a bad resolution at every turn in my opinion; it continues the trend started in Consequences whereby Anne never has any real negative results of her using her powers pell-mell and willy-nilly, made worse by the fact that Loki was doing something Anne’s done (transforming people and overwriting their personalities with new ones) and gets curbstomped for it. Loki losing his powers is almost assuredly going to kill him, as he has no real way to survive without them that we’ve seen, coupled with the fact that he’s on the hook for the club in whose wreckage they stand.
Also, the M:tG reference comes from a time where cards had little to do with the story, and locking up Szadek for “violating the Guildpact” in his attempts to subvert it ended up allowing him the freedom to try and destroy all of Ravnica in the Dissension novel. Yes, I used to read the Magic: the Gathering paperback novels; don’t judge me.
Lastly, yes, I do plan on dropping this comic once the current story ends, have no fear of that.
What would you have Anne do that would be nicer? Loki tried to conquer the world so he could be one of its tyrants forever. If Anne just let him go he’d try again, and cause a lot of suffering in the process. She needs to do more than just ‘that didn’t work. Go and concoct another evil scheme now.”
Send him and the rest of the gods to another reality where they can have worshippers and the such without having to possess her friends? She likely has the power to do that now she’s eaten the chaos storm, and it’d be better than making Loki mortal and leaving him to die, which I suspect will bother her not one bit.
I’ve followed your discussion here, and I have to admit to a level of confusion about your points, HWA. There’s a primary thread that’s run through the entire comic over the years.
Anne is an agent of chaos who’s trying to use chaos to maintain balance.
Talk about a near impossible job! And the consequences are evident with each successful storyline. Balance is achieved by Anne turning everything back to ‘normal’, but the chaos grows and becomes more evident. Even more powerful. Have you noticed the various stories over the year? They’re escalating. Oh, a few of storylines show appearance of taking a step back toward normal, but they can’t ultimately succeed until the Wotch, as a force of chaos, finds a solution to the problem of countering chaos with chaos. And has been shown from the first comic and in many adventures (including this story arc), Anne still hasn’t mastered either her powers or her role. She’s growing quickly in power but not in ability to manage the power.
I’ve enjoyed The Wotch for many years. It’s humor, odd twists, growing relationships, and quirky storylines all contribute to that enjoyment. But the underlying thread of chaos balancing chaos to achieve balance has been a driving force of this comic. To me, at least.
The problem is that, whenever these magical shenanigans occur, it’s treated as “meh, whatever” when Anne’s the cause of it. The poorly named Consequences has the best example, where Lita’s mom admits that she knows her daughter used to be her son but has no real desire to correct this. And this is a continued theme where Anne is given no reason to grow as a person, even as she grows in her power. Or, to use another in-universe example, consider this: had Anne caused the mass gender swap in Dancing Queens instead of Cassie, do you think it would have cost her Robin’s love? Probably not. So, yeah, while the hijinks and such are fun, having Anne not mature at all (because she has been given no reason to) in line with her growing power is just no fun.
Anne is stuck with using Chaos against Chaos because the multiversal avatar of Order, who rightfully ought to be her balancing partner, is instead a cruel conquering tyrant. Melleck Xaos’ entire plotline is building towards one of three conclusions:
1: He is turned back towards the side of Good
2: He is defeated and replaced by a new holder of the role of Worlock
or 3: The entire Wotch/Worlock system is replaced
I’m late to the show, but personally, I liked the “Consequences” chapter better than you did. I think that story works best if you read it as a good-natured parody of the story so far. This was never the most serious comic out there, and I don’t think its experiments with a more serious tone were entirely successful, so in hindsight I’m glad it didn’t change direction with a more serious story.
And it’s good that it changed direction. The character of Anne did start out using her powers on people whenever she felt like it, and it would just be a one-off gag. But actually, that’s immature wish fulfillment (and one definition of “Mary Sue.”)
The story’s a series of gags where everybody expects things to keep going the way they always have, only now the minor characters stop overlooking the obvious and their old tricks don’t work any more. The comic also starts to explicitly say that Anne 0makes bad decisions sometimes. She feels guilty and wants to atone, but that gets subverted too: it turns out none of the people she wronged was really hurt. (Which is funnier than if they’d been really suffering, and also makes it easier for the comic to go on portraying Anne as the heroine ) Finally, we find out that the only reason people ever acted like sitcom characters is that someone else was following Anne around and cleaning up her messes, and now she’s fed up.
The strip since then has had its ups and downs, but if it wasn’t going to do a big reboot where Anne gets a comeuppance and someone like Cass became the new Wotch, I think that was a pretty good way to change gears and have the main character learn a lesson.
I guess it’s better than being bound under the earth by the entrails of your kid while snake venom is dripped into your eyes. Still… why does Anne get to drastically change the world on a whim, but not Loki? I guess Loki wanted to rule the world, kind of? But there wasn’t a sharp enough distinction between what the hero does and what the villain does.
She just removes the … oh, you mean the sporadic and frequent transformation magic she wields?
Don’t you think there is a difference between doing things to a part of the world, and the entirety of it?
Also, Loki’s changes was intended to be permanent, and several of the Wotch’s are temporary.
One of the things that I want the comic to address is Anne’s irresponsible use of magic. I don’t mind a character flaw where she has a tendency to act carelessly and the comic has sort of addressed this, but not really. Anne uses her powers very recklessly and when she gets called out on it, the comic’s kind of like “Meh… It’s not that bad. People are mostly happy about it. It’s fine.” Like, I want Anne to grow as a person. In this plot line, Anne’s vision of the world and Loki’s are different. Anne wants to preserve her world and Loki wants to create his. Beyond that, the two of them don’t have any moral difference. Loki turned everyone into gods. Is that a bad thing? Maybe people would be happier with a world full of magic and gods and centaurs and stuff. I guess Loki is “worse” because he plans to rule this world and overrides people’s free will to make them serve his purposes, but this story arc had a chance for Anne to actually address her flippant, selfish and irresponsible use of her powers. Again, I don’t mind this being a flaw of hers. I don’t like that the narrative doesn’t seem to really treat Anne’s actions as if they’re something serious. Of course she’s the hero. The comic is named after her.
And everyone seems to be forgetting that for a god to get their life back in the world, a mortal has to give up theirs. No, that’s not justifiable at all. To kill one person to revive another is iffy at the best of times, and I’d only ever consider it okay if the person was willing to sacrifice themselves to do it.
Robin, Jason, and even Sonja have a right to exist in the world, and so does whoever Loki possessed. The gods are dead, and bringing them back at the cost of someone else’s life is NOT worth it.
And yes, this is being undone. Doesn’t change the fact that it was done in the first place.
Except that Loki’s plot has been undone. Anne’s victims, on the other hand, are gone (apparently) forever. And yet somehow she’s not getting defanged for it.
Be sure to tell that to every religion on Earth Anne who worships a deity. I’m sure you’ll make LOTS and LOTS of friends. And to be sure to pass judgement on every god in existence!
Now I imagine a deity who dreams the universe into existence, finding “the world doesn’t need gods” message depressing and chooses to wake up, ending the universe.
Oh will you shut the hell up? If you don’t like the comic, just stop reading! Repeating your point over and over doesn’t make it stronger, it just makes you more toxic to be around!
And anyway, I think it’s more a message that the world needs beings who actively try to help make it better rather than just watch over it.
Yes, Chris, very mature. For the record, I get from where (or is that whence? Meh, whatever) Nobody is coming. I used to really enjoy this comic, but this story just . . . it has just reinforced the bad aspects while not really trying to do the same for the good ones, in my opinion. I’m finishing this particular chapter, then taking a long break. Hopefully I can enjoy the comic when/if I come back, but I’m not gonna lose sleep over it either way.
A little addition to the notion that the world doesn’t need gods, it needs heroes. Traditionally, most of the heroes from Greek mythology or Norse Sagas could trace their lineage to the gods and even if they couldn’t, they were generally heroic because they had won the favor of the gods.
I wonder how the gods still being worshipped and still around feel about Anne basically declaring them criminals for the crime of existing. Or DARING to be an active part of the world.
The storyline was great, thank you. Do you plan to publish Some of the stories on Kindle?
“The world needs heroes, not gods.” Geeze, spit in the face of every religion on the planet why don’t you?
Nah, Buddhism doesn’t have a god.
Buddhism do have a god, in fact, it has lots, as it sprung off Hinduism.
However, it tend to care little to nothing about those gods.
It also has it’s Jesus-like figure in Buddha, and by that i mean “The One True Way”-guy that you reach the “Most Desireable Endgoal” through, essentially.
One of the things that intrigues me about Buddhism is that it attempts to define Good and Evil as objective things, rather than saying that something is Good or Evil “because God(s) say so”.
You seem very determined to make trouble over very small, little tings in the comic.
It’s not like she’s wrong. As far as I’m aware, nobody has ever killed someone else in the name of Spider-Man.
“Batman is better than Spider-Man.”
“How dare you!? Die!”
No one ever created a hero cult of personality around themselves and got others to kill for them… wait…
Somebody’s cranky…
It’s hard to tell with the comic capitalization, but I’m pretty sure through context that she meant “gods” with a little g. Which would exclude the omnipotent monotheistic God however you know Him, Her, They, or It.
Didn’t the omnipotent monotheistic God decided themselves that the world doesn’t need it? I mean, he didn’t do anything significant for like two thousand years …
YHVH is still a god. The capital “G” comes solely from using “God” as a title because in the Abrahamic religions, speaking YHVH’s name is blasphemous except for the high clergy, and there’s been sufficient creep that most of the adherents to said religions have forgotten that even the Tetragrammaton (YHVH) and its various be-voweled derivatives (Yaveh, Yaweh, Jehovah, etc) aren’t the “name of god.”
Well, let’s be fair, the Greek/Roman gods were just a bunch of powerful assholes who used mortals as their playthings. Whereas the Abrahamic God, love him or hate him, established rules during the course of the bible, the Greek/Roman gods just did what they wanted willy-nilly.
So really, when she says the world doesn’t need “gods”, as in super powerful beings actively who screw over mortals over minor offenses because they have the power to do so, I think she’s very much right. I tend to view these “gods” like Loki or Hermes as being more like powerful extra-dimensional beings, like aliens or something, rather than a true God.
The thing most people miss in that is that Gods are the distillation of hero myths told by chinese telephone game for 100 generations.
That and early attempts at science marred by humanities tendency to humanize everything. Back then it was attributing malice and plotting to wolves and owls, rushing rivers and volcanos, now days it’s PETA trying to tell us animals have souls and we shouldn’t eat them.
I hope Freya gets to stay. As for Loki, maybe being mortal will teach him some humility. And to Nobody: she didn’t spit in the face of /my/ religion.
Maybe she’ll live in Jason’s head and take over when Sonja would come out.
Looks like Loki is going to get a taste of life on the other side of the spectrum
Remember: if violence is not your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
So, yes, better try the other options first.
No, Anne, that’s not at all the nicest option. You’re stripping Loki of his powers for, essentially, doing his job of challenging the status quo. Ya know, god of mischief, chaos and trickery?
At least when this was done in Magic: the Gathering’s Ravnica storyline, there were MASSIVE consequences that lasted for over a decade. Here? It’ll likely just be ignored by the Mary Sue Crew and never spoken of again.
Or, considering how long this story’s gone so far, we’ll be in the wreckage of Loki’s club for that long anyway . . .
If this story has taken a long time, it’s only because the creators are currently having difficulties financially. If you don’t like it, then go donate to their Patreon.
If it was possible to up click this response I would.
And if it were possible to down click both of you, I would. I didn’t mind the delays while this story was still good (PS, plenty of commentors have complained about the delays during this story, but I’m the one you tell to pay into this. Hmmmnm . . . ), but as soon as we established that Anne was both Mary Sue and MacGuffin rolled into one, it became a crapfest. There’ll be no consequences for her, like always happens, and we’re just expected to be totally cool with the fact that Anne’s gleefully imprisoned most of the gods forever while handing down a death sentence to Loki without a second thought. But you’re right, I should pay into this steadily declining comic so they can churn it out more quickly.
Idiots.
Complaining on a free comic instead of merely leaving it be … yes, very ….
No, i have no words for it, but whatever it is, it is not constructive criticism.
You are, at best, disappointed with the sporadic updates, but as you don’t like the comic any longer anyway, then why should you care?
It used to be great, and had a good run.
If you no longer like it, then leave it.
This is no malice from my side, just pointing things out, as you did.
Also, MtG uses events to fuel and start up following cycles, i like that, but The Wotch’s world …. is not Ravnica.
And as for removing gods from their powers … remember what the Greek Pantheon did to their allegedly cruel parents?
Surely, that would have had a massive impact in their world.
Same with TYING LOKI TO A ROCK AND HAVE VENOM DRIPPING ON HIS FORHEAD.
No, forcing Loki to live as human will not have a big impact … or perhaps it will, neither of us know what is or may be planned.
@Catelf – like I said, I had no problem with the sporadic updates. However, once we got to Anne’s confrontation with Loki, it quickly became a bad resolution at every turn in my opinion; it continues the trend started in Consequences whereby Anne never has any real negative results of her using her powers pell-mell and willy-nilly, made worse by the fact that Loki was doing something Anne’s done (transforming people and overwriting their personalities with new ones) and gets curbstomped for it. Loki losing his powers is almost assuredly going to kill him, as he has no real way to survive without them that we’ve seen, coupled with the fact that he’s on the hook for the club in whose wreckage they stand.
Also, the M:tG reference comes from a time where cards had little to do with the story, and locking up Szadek for “violating the Guildpact” in his attempts to subvert it ended up allowing him the freedom to try and destroy all of Ravnica in the Dissension novel. Yes, I used to read the Magic: the Gathering paperback novels; don’t judge me.
Lastly, yes, I do plan on dropping this comic once the current story ends, have no fear of that.
What would you have Anne do that would be nicer? Loki tried to conquer the world so he could be one of its tyrants forever. If Anne just let him go he’d try again, and cause a lot of suffering in the process. She needs to do more than just ‘that didn’t work. Go and concoct another evil scheme now.”
Send him and the rest of the gods to another reality where they can have worshippers and the such without having to possess her friends? She likely has the power to do that now she’s eaten the chaos storm, and it’d be better than making Loki mortal and leaving him to die, which I suspect will bother her not one bit.
I’ve followed your discussion here, and I have to admit to a level of confusion about your points, HWA. There’s a primary thread that’s run through the entire comic over the years.
Anne is an agent of chaos who’s trying to use chaos to maintain balance.
Talk about a near impossible job! And the consequences are evident with each successful storyline. Balance is achieved by Anne turning everything back to ‘normal’, but the chaos grows and becomes more evident. Even more powerful. Have you noticed the various stories over the year? They’re escalating. Oh, a few of storylines show appearance of taking a step back toward normal, but they can’t ultimately succeed until the Wotch, as a force of chaos, finds a solution to the problem of countering chaos with chaos. And has been shown from the first comic and in many adventures (including this story arc), Anne still hasn’t mastered either her powers or her role. She’s growing quickly in power but not in ability to manage the power.
I’ve enjoyed The Wotch for many years. It’s humor, odd twists, growing relationships, and quirky storylines all contribute to that enjoyment. But the underlying thread of chaos balancing chaos to achieve balance has been a driving force of this comic. To me, at least.
The problem is that, whenever these magical shenanigans occur, it’s treated as “meh, whatever” when Anne’s the cause of it. The poorly named Consequences has the best example, where Lita’s mom admits that she knows her daughter used to be her son but has no real desire to correct this. And this is a continued theme where Anne is given no reason to grow as a person, even as she grows in her power. Or, to use another in-universe example, consider this: had Anne caused the mass gender swap in Dancing Queens instead of Cassie, do you think it would have cost her Robin’s love? Probably not. So, yeah, while the hijinks and such are fun, having Anne not mature at all (because she has been given no reason to) in line with her growing power is just no fun.
Anne is stuck with using Chaos against Chaos because the multiversal avatar of Order, who rightfully ought to be her balancing partner, is instead a cruel conquering tyrant. Melleck Xaos’ entire plotline is building towards one of three conclusions:
1: He is turned back towards the side of Good
2: He is defeated and replaced by a new holder of the role of Worlock
or 3: The entire Wotch/Worlock system is replaced
Loki was trying to conquer the world and change things in a way that would make it a miserable place for all the mortals. The Wotch is being merciful.
I’m late to the show, but personally, I liked the “Consequences” chapter better than you did. I think that story works best if you read it as a good-natured parody of the story so far. This was never the most serious comic out there, and I don’t think its experiments with a more serious tone were entirely successful, so in hindsight I’m glad it didn’t change direction with a more serious story.
And it’s good that it changed direction. The character of Anne did start out using her powers on people whenever she felt like it, and it would just be a one-off gag. But actually, that’s immature wish fulfillment (and one definition of “Mary Sue.”)
The story’s a series of gags where everybody expects things to keep going the way they always have, only now the minor characters stop overlooking the obvious and their old tricks don’t work any more. The comic also starts to explicitly say that Anne 0makes bad decisions sometimes. She feels guilty and wants to atone, but that gets subverted too: it turns out none of the people she wronged was really hurt. (Which is funnier than if they’d been really suffering, and also makes it easier for the comic to go on portraying Anne as the heroine ) Finally, we find out that the only reason people ever acted like sitcom characters is that someone else was following Anne around and cleaning up her messes, and now she’s fed up.
The strip since then has had its ups and downs, but if it wasn’t going to do a big reboot where Anne gets a comeuppance and someone like Cass became the new Wotch, I think that was a pretty good way to change gears and have the main character learn a lesson.
I guess it’s better than being bound under the earth by the entrails of your kid while snake venom is dripped into your eyes. Still… why does Anne get to drastically change the world on a whim, but not Loki? I guess Loki wanted to rule the world, kind of? But there wasn’t a sharp enough distinction between what the hero does and what the villain does.
This. This, 100 freaking percent.
She just removes the … oh, you mean the sporadic and frequent transformation magic she wields?
Don’t you think there is a difference between doing things to a part of the world, and the entirety of it?
Also, Loki’s changes was intended to be permanent, and several of the Wotch’s are temporary.
Sam, Alex, Lita, Jo, and Mingmei are all permanent. And at least three of them know nothing about it.
One of the things that I want the comic to address is Anne’s irresponsible use of magic. I don’t mind a character flaw where she has a tendency to act carelessly and the comic has sort of addressed this, but not really. Anne uses her powers very recklessly and when she gets called out on it, the comic’s kind of like “Meh… It’s not that bad. People are mostly happy about it. It’s fine.” Like, I want Anne to grow as a person. In this plot line, Anne’s vision of the world and Loki’s are different. Anne wants to preserve her world and Loki wants to create his. Beyond that, the two of them don’t have any moral difference. Loki turned everyone into gods. Is that a bad thing? Maybe people would be happier with a world full of magic and gods and centaurs and stuff. I guess Loki is “worse” because he plans to rule this world and overrides people’s free will to make them serve his purposes, but this story arc had a chance for Anne to actually address her flippant, selfish and irresponsible use of her powers. Again, I don’t mind this being a flaw of hers. I don’t like that the narrative doesn’t seem to really treat Anne’s actions as if they’re something serious. Of course she’s the hero. The comic is named after her.
And everyone seems to be forgetting that for a god to get their life back in the world, a mortal has to give up theirs. No, that’s not justifiable at all. To kill one person to revive another is iffy at the best of times, and I’d only ever consider it okay if the person was willing to sacrifice themselves to do it.
Robin, Jason, and even Sonja have a right to exist in the world, and so does whoever Loki possessed. The gods are dead, and bringing them back at the cost of someone else’s life is NOT worth it.
And yes, this is being undone. Doesn’t change the fact that it was done in the first place.
So Anne only murdered, like, 6 people and Loki killed a town. Same crime, just different degrees.
Except that Loki’s plot has been undone. Anne’s victims, on the other hand, are gone (apparently) forever. And yet somehow she’s not getting defanged for it.
Be sure to tell that to every religion on Earth Anne who worships a deity. I’m sure you’ll make LOTS and LOTS of friends. And to be sure to pass judgement on every god in existence!
Now I imagine a deity who dreams the universe into existence, finding “the world doesn’t need gods” message depressing and chooses to wake up, ending the universe.
Oh will you shut the hell up? If you don’t like the comic, just stop reading! Repeating your point over and over doesn’t make it stronger, it just makes you more toxic to be around!
And anyway, I think it’s more a message that the world needs beings who actively try to help make it better rather than just watch over it.
I used to like the comic, that is the problem. I feel like I’ve been hurt by a close friend. Call that pathetic if you want.
Yes, Chris, very mature. For the record, I get from where (or is that whence? Meh, whatever) Nobody is coming. I used to really enjoy this comic, but this story just . . . it has just reinforced the bad aspects while not really trying to do the same for the good ones, in my opinion. I’m finishing this particular chapter, then taking a long break. Hopefully I can enjoy the comic when/if I come back, but I’m not gonna lose sleep over it either way.
“And anyway, I think it’s more a message that the world needs beings who actively try to help make it better rather than just watch over it.”
The ‘invisible man in the sky who just sits on his butt and zaps people who don’t like him’ is a child’s understanding of picture of God.
“actively try to help make it better” is what real gods DO.
A little addition to the notion that the world doesn’t need gods, it needs heroes. Traditionally, most of the heroes from Greek mythology or Norse Sagas could trace their lineage to the gods and even if they couldn’t, they were generally heroic because they had won the favor of the gods.
5 bucks says Sonja and freya stay fuse.
I wonder how the gods still being worshipped and still around feel about Anne basically declaring them criminals for the crime of existing. Or DARING to be an active part of the world.